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Talos4
12-31-2002, 10:27 AM
From my office I have a clear view of all the TV towers, (well actually I have to stand up and look further to the left for Lincoln park) anyway, Today I noticed a new antenna hanging off the community tower.

Couldn't see it yesterday due to the fog. Anyone have an idea of who's antenna this may be?

Tom Snyder
12-31-2002, 12:39 PM
Can you tell what kind of antenna is it? TV, FM, communication?

oflaherty
12-31-2002, 06:10 PM
I didn’t notice it until today. I’m told it’s the digital antenna for one of the Sinclair stations..but I’m not sure if it’s for 18 or 24. And yes it’s mounted on the bottom of one of the existing antennas.
The other digital Sinclair antenna and the Pax digital antenna are still on the ground, ready to go up on the third branch of that candelabra.
I also hear that after full power testing, the expensive full power tubes will be removed and both Sinclair stations will operate at low power.
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Sean at TMJ

Tom Snyder
12-31-2002, 08:21 PM
Working on New Year's Eve, Sean? Bummer... well Happy New Year! http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org/ubb/smile.gif

So any idea on WHAT power level... WITI-power or WDJT-power?

Gregg Lengling
12-31-2002, 08:47 PM
It sounds strange that they would pull the IOT's but then again electricty isn't cheap nowadays..but compared to the rent on the tower what the heck...but who cares I have a big feeling that for months it will be nothing but simulcast 480i....I really was hoping that I'd get to see Enterprise in HD but I guess I'll have to wait another 3 years.

oflaherty
12-31-2002, 09:50 PM
I don't know what power level they will be. I hope it's at least like Channel 58.
I don't have any official information.. all I know is just what I hear around the station.
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Sean at TMJ

Joseph S
01-01-2003, 06:34 PM
I also hear that after full power testing, the expensive full power tubes will be removed and both Sinclair stations will operate at low power.

but they told us, the FCC, and the world, that ATSC doesn't work at low power. Is Sinclair out to prove the world that producing lower power crappy upconverts is the way to go? http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org/ubb/biggrin.gif

Talos4
01-02-2003, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by Tom Snyder:
Can you tell what kind of antenna is it? TV, FM, communication?

From my vantage point the new antenna looks to be about 2/3 of the size of the stick above it. That would lead me to believe it's a lower power setup.

Gregg Lengling
01-02-2003, 07:14 AM
Not necessarily....the top antennas are both duals....they have 2 stations on each..they are actually stacked antennas....


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Talos4
01-03-2003, 01:30 PM
Well now it's what's gone up. Another new element has magically appeared today. This one is on the top of the one vacant space on the candelabra.

If these are for Sinclair, wouldn't the elements be mounted on their own tower(wcgv?)
and avoid having to pay rent on another tower?

Gregg Lengling
01-03-2003, 01:35 PM
No their tower doesn't have the structural strength for more antennas...rumors I heard was they were going on the community tower...so that may be theirs.

oflaherty
01-06-2003, 11:04 PM
The big yellow thing on the eastern most leg of the candelabra is a “gin pole.” It was used to hoist the new “stacked” antenna into place on Monday 1/6.
One of the stacked antennas is for PAX digital.. the other half is for one of the digital Sinclair stations.
The other Sinclair digital antenna is already on the bottom of the western leg. But I still don’t know which antenna goes with which station.
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Sean at TMJ

Talos4
01-07-2003, 06:30 AM
Thanks Sean, the "gin pole" was going to be my next question.

It sure is fascinating watching someone hanging off the array tightening bolts.

kjnorman
01-07-2003, 07:17 AM
Sean,

I was wondering, once the antenna is in place, is there any rough time line until a station can actually broadcast digital?

oflaherty
01-07-2003, 11:51 PM
I don’t know how soon the three stations will be on the air.
I heard the Sinclair transmitters are in place on the second floor of the transmitter building at the base of the tower, but I don’t know much of the work has been done to run the transmission lines up the tower.
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Sean at TMJ

borghe
01-08-2003, 02:03 PM
well this is certainly an interesting thread.

As far as timing I would like to point out that while WCGV-TV has an extension approved until 5/1/2003, WVTV's extension has not been approved. It also would seem that if they are in the final stages of getting things up that the FCC would not approve an extension for any length of time other than a month or two maybe. Just my thoughts. You can see the approvals and whatnot here (http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/pubacc/prod/app_sear.htm). Just use the call signs WCGV-TV and WVTV.