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murdoc
03-10-2007, 01:23 PM
...this year during NCAA March Madness. I just saw a commercial saying CBS58 is "proud to bring you multiple games" (that look like they are broadcast with a $20 webcam). This is just ridiculous. The Badgers could be going in as a number 1 seed, and we will get to follow their championship run in webcam SD and not HD as provided by CBS corporate. Combine this with CBS58's desire to keep them off of D* HD, and it's time to start looking for a different station. Does anyone know if either Madison or Green Bay will be showing the games in HDTV as they are supposed to be shown? I've been able to pull in Madison and Green Bay stations before as long as the weather cooperates. And finally:

BURN IN HELL CBS58!!! :bang: :bang: :Shoot: :Shoot: :guns: :guns:

TAS
03-10-2007, 04:52 PM
WISC-DT has always done HDTV, last year i saw UWM play in HDTV when it was SD here. (UWM is barely mentioned on Madison news but channel 3 made the effort for a HD game)

I have had perfect signal from WISC-DT all winter with a UHF antenna, amp all in atic.

If you are West of US41/45 you have a great chance of watching channel 3 (50DT)

murdoc
03-11-2007, 10:15 AM
WISC-DT has always done HDTV, last year i saw UWM play in HDTV when it was SD here. (UWM is barely mentioned on Madison news but channel 3 made the effort for a HD game)

I have had perfect signal from WISC-DT all winter with a UHF antenna, amp all in atic.

If you are West of US41/45 you have a great chance of watching channel 3 (50DT)

Actually I'm on the east side of West Bend, but am atop a hill. I've been able to pull in Madison stations quite well before. Looks like I'll be headed up to the roof to adjust the antenna this week. At least the snow is gone and I will have decent weather to work with.

LoadStar
03-11-2007, 08:06 PM
...this year during NCAA March Madness. I just saw a commercial saying CBS58 is "proud to bring you multiple games" (that look like they are broadcast with a $20 webcam). This is just ridiculous. The Badgers could be going in as a number 1 seed, and we will get to follow their championship run in webcam SD and not HD as provided by CBS corporate. Combine this with CBS58's desire to keep them off of D* HD, and it's time to start looking for a different station. Does anyone know if either Madison or Green Bay will be showing the games in HDTV as they are supposed to be shown? I've been able to pull in Madison and Green Bay stations before as long as the weather cooperates. And finally:

BURN IN HELL CBS58!!! :bang: :bang: :Shoot: :Shoot: :guns: :guns:

Unless I misunderstood the commercial, the multicast will be on Time Warner Cable only, not their broadcast channels, so unless TWC is extremely bandwidth starved, it won't affect the main channel at all. (I hope.)

Skywalker
03-12-2007, 09:12 AM
From what I've heard through the grapevine, CBS 58 will not multicast during Wisconsin and Marquette games. Thus, you will be able to enjoy them in glorious HD.

I should add that there is no guarantee Wiconsin and Marquette's round 1 games will be produced by CBS in HD. I believe the HD broadcasts for round 1 matchups are still being determined.

murdoc
03-12-2007, 04:14 PM
Unless I misunderstood the commercial, the multicast will be on Time Warner Cable only, not their broadcast channels, so unless TWC is extremely bandwidth starved, it won't affect the main channel at all. (I hope.)

From what I've heard through the grapevine, CBS 58 will not multicast during Wisconsin and Marquette games. Thus, you will be able to enjoy them in glorious HD.

I should add that there is no guarantee Wiconsin and Marquette's round 1 games will be produced by CBS in HD. I believe the HD broadcasts for round 1 matchups are still being determined.

Well I hope this is right. I guess we will see on Thursday.

tbest1797
03-12-2007, 05:56 PM
From what I've heard through the grapevine, CBS 58 will not multicast during Wisconsin and Marquette games. Thus, you will be able to enjoy them in glorious HD.

I should add that there is no guarantee Wiconsin and Marquette's round 1 games will be produced by CBS in HD. I believe the HD broadcasts for round 1 matchups are still being determined.

We should be okay then since all tournament games are in HD this year.

Tom

LoadStar
03-12-2007, 06:56 PM
Here's the text from the ad:
"March Madness is coming, and CBS58 Digital will multicast the games. And, so you don't miss a minute of the action, we're creating 3 additional digital cable channels, in partnership with Time Warner Cable and Charter Communications. More fast breaks, more slam dunks, more buzzer beaters, more of everything you want to see. The NCAA Tournament begins March 15 on CBS58, and multicast on CBS58 Digital."

The ad prominently displays the cable channels 583, 584, and 585, and never mentions 58.xx.

TAS
03-12-2007, 08:21 PM
The commercial "mentions cbs 58 digital" and every other year they do it over the air in addition to cable.

But that doesn't mean we will see no HD, maybe they will switch for the prime time games and teams of interest for people in Milwaukee.

Skywalker
03-13-2007, 09:38 AM
As someone mentioned earlier and as I saw this morning, CBS is producing all the NCAA Tournament games in HD (this year). This is fantastic. IMHO, CBS consistently offers the best picture and sound quality for HD Sports.

As for CBS 58, they will multicast just like the promo says. However, my well placed sources have told me that when Wisconsin and Marquette are on, CBS 58 will broadcast the HD stream on 505.

Marquette plays Thursday at 6:20pm
Wisconsin plays Friday at 1:55pm.

This leaves plenty of time throughout those days for multicasting of other games.

We'll find out soon enough.

bubbaridesfast
03-13-2007, 02:44 PM
I guess I'm the odd one as I'd MUCH rather be able to watch any of the games that I want too than be forced to only watch the single crappy match up that I don't want to see while another spectacular game is going into double OT!

Of course a lot of teams I like aren't from the Big Ten which we would be force fed with a single channel only although if like last year that won't matter after the 1st round :D ! This is the only time of year that I ever use my split screen button and without multi-casting I couldn't.

THANK YOU CBS 58! (For this only, don't expect that I love everything else you do/don't do).

klwillis45
03-13-2007, 02:57 PM
I guess I'm the odd one as I'd MUCH rather be able to watch any of the games that I want too than be forced to only watch the single crappy match up that I don't want to see while another spectacular game is going into double OT!

Of course a lot of teams I like aren't from the Big Ten which we would be force fed with a single channel only although if like last year that won't matter after the 1st round :D ! This is the only time of year that I ever use my split screen button and without multi-casting I couldn't.

THANK YOU CBS 58! (For this only, don't expect that I love everything else you do/don't do).

I with ya on this one.

Mags
03-14-2007, 01:09 PM
I with ya on this one.


I guess I'm in the minority on this one. I'd much rather have CBS either:

1. Broadcast the local game in HD and drop the multicasting (as the local game is blacked out from D* from being in HD, since the local 58 has the rights), or

2. Release the rights to all games for D*. That would be the best of both worlds - folks could see their multicast on 58 digital (but get no HD) and the rest of us who choose D* could see all the games in HD (which is the way CBS and God intended it).

That would be great!

Sparkman87
03-15-2007, 07:50 AM
Here's the text from the ad:
"March Madness is coming, and CBS58 Digital will multicast the games. And, so you don't miss a minute of the action, we're creating 3 additional digital cable channels, in partnership with Time Warner Cable and Charter Communications. More fast breaks, more slam dunks, more buzzer beaters, more of everything you want to see. The NCAA Tournament begins March 15 on CBS58, and multicast on CBS58 Digital."

The ad prominently displays the cable channels 583, 584, and 585, and never mentions 58.xx.

I'm in Il and pick up ch 58 OTA 58.3, 58.4, & 58.5 are out there right now, labeled as NCAA. This actually works great for me as I know I can see all games, plus still gets the HD game from CBS 2 in Chicago.

Mikey
03-15-2007, 10:31 AM
Games have started.

On Timewarner channel 5, the game is on in regular old SD.

On Channel 505, there is nothing but a TRIVIA on, looking like a computer screen saver. No HD game. Channel 5 stated the game was in HD. Yet TW 505 has no game on at all.

WTF!?!?

I have called, there is a 60 minute call back time to speak to anyone at TW.

Upon further review, channel 58-1 is showing the same damn thing, so it is a CBS 58 issue.

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Open tourney game and they have nothing airing at all on 58HD?

morons...:bang:

Mrtanner
03-15-2007, 10:36 AM
Games have started.

On Timewarner channel 5, the game is on in regular old SD.

On Channel 505, there is nothing but a TRIVIA on, looking like a computer screen saver. No HD game. Channel 5 stated the game was in HD. Yet TW 505 has no game on at all.

WTF!?!?

I have called, there is a 60 minute call back time to speak to anyone at TW.

Upon further review, channel 58-1 is showing the same damn thing, so it is a CBS 58 issue.

:

Check channels 581, 582, 583, etc. In the past years, 505 goes blank and that bandwidth is used to multicast all the games concurrently in the 58x range.

Mikey
03-15-2007, 11:31 AM
Check channels 581, 582, 583, etc. In the past years, 505 goes blank and that bandwidth is used to multicast all the games concurrently in the 58x range.

They are having 583, 584 & 585 have games, but nothing is in HD.

Nothing.

****es me off.

Mikey
03-15-2007, 11:34 AM
On cbs589's own website, they list their HD channel as airing the BC vs. TT game, yet there is no game being shown on their HD channel.

Are we not going to get teh Marquette and Bucky games in HD now?

F---!

tbest1797
03-15-2007, 12:25 PM
SD lite! CBS 58 is doing this for our benefit!?

Tom

Skywalker
03-15-2007, 12:55 PM
CBS 58 can either multicast SD games or show one game in HD (along with it's SD counterpart on ch. 5) due to bandwidth limitations. Why is this so hard to understand? Their management has chosen to utilize SD multicasting. Their thinking must be that the majority of college basketball fans would rather watch a variety of games at the same time rather than just getting stuck with one regional game to watch. It's also a great promotional tool for the station.

Again, I've been told they will show the Wisconsin and Marquette games in HD on 505 thus abandoning multicasting while those games are LIVE. When those games are over, they will go back to multicasting.

Tonight's Marquette game will tell the tale.

Or get DirecTV and order the March Madness package.

Vamsi
03-15-2007, 12:56 PM
Is the PQ really that bad? I like the idea of being able to see all the games, but it's unfortunate that we can't enjoy them in HD. Is this only for the first two rounds of the tournament? I hope we can see the games in HD at least from the Sweet 16 forward.

Mags
03-15-2007, 01:11 PM
CBS 58 can either multicast SD games or show one game in HD (along with it's SD counterpart on ch. 5) due to bandwidth limitations. Why is this so hard to understand? Their management has chosen to utilize SD multicasting. Their thinking must be that the majority of college basketball fans would rather watch a variety of games at the same time rather than just getting stuck with one regional game to watch. It's also a great promotional tool for the station.

Again, I've been told they will show the Wisconsin and Marquette games in HD on 505 thus abandoning multicasting while those games are LIVE. When those games are over, they will go back to multicasting.

Tonight's Marquette game will tell the tale.

Or get DirecTV and order the March Madness package.

EXACTLY my point. Everyone has the option to get all the games via Directv. What we DON'T have the option of is getting the game that CBS-58 is airing locally in HD, as D* MUST black it out due to territorial restrictions.

It's unfair and could be borderline antitrust. If CBS would show us the HD game as they are supposed to, then we'd all have the ABILITY to get EVERY NCAA game in HD IF we so chose.

They have taken consumer choice out of our hands. America is about letting the consumer choose.

BOO CBS-58.

Mags
03-15-2007, 01:25 PM
I'm trying to find the "primary" CBS-58 game today (Old Dominion vs Butler).

I check 58-1 and I just see a stupid static graphic.

58-2: High school

58-3 thru 58-5 - the other games.


Are you kidding me? They are not even digitally broadcasting their "primary" game on their digital channels? This analog stuff is really bad, especially on the new TV's of today.

I MUST be doing something wrong. There is no way CBS-58 would waste a subchannel on a graphic (their primary one no less of 58-1), and not even put on their primary game on a digital channel, would they?

I'm assuming that the only place we'll be able to find Wisky and Marquette will be analog too?

Will CBS-58 EVER show HD? I'm guessing the Final Four will be analog too?

SHOW THE HD GAMES PLEASE! THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, and more importantly that is what the DIGITAL SPECTRUM WAS DESIGNED FOR!

Mikey
03-15-2007, 02:02 PM
I guess they chose just to have multiple SD games simultaneously rather than 1 HD game.

Everytime I see the "Broadcast in HD" at the start of any game now, it just ****es me off.

Hopefully it is only this way for the 1st round or 2 and no more.

I'd rather watch one game in HD myself and let CBS cut in at relevant points in other games, but that is just me.

I have become very jaded towards SD television when I am at home watching my 56".

Mags
03-15-2007, 02:50 PM
I'm just trying to figure out where the primary game is (Butler right now) is on their digital channels.

I've already given up on them ever showing an HD game. As they showed last night by not airing Jericho in HD (their best show in my opinion) they really don't care about their HD viewers at all.

I believe the rest of the country saw Jericho in HD. Why didn't we? Because CBS has no interest in the HD demographic.

Which is really stupid on their part. It's a demographic that has disposable income (typically, as they bought expensive TV's) which advertisers love. CBS obviously does not care for them.

I'm done with CBS-58. I will no longer watch Jericho. Or any of their other shows. I will point my antenna towards Madison and will not watch them anymore.

Granted, I'm only 1 household, so I'm sure they don't care. But I'll bet there are other HD lovers out there that feel the same way about the HORRIBLE way CBS-58 runs their station and disrespects their HD viewers.

The reason why CBS is broadcasting ALL the games in HD this year is because they EXPECT their affiliates to broadcast it that way. I wonder if there is anything we can do to get new management in the Milwaukee location.

I guess I'll start with a letter to CBS corporate and tell them all the issues that our local has in disrespecting their HD viewers.

brewtownska
03-15-2007, 03:39 PM
You know what would be cool is if instead of showing 3-4 crappy subchannels, to combine 4 games into 1 screen, then just show that as a subchannel along with an HD game on their main channel. I know it would pull bandwidth away from an HD game, but it would probably be more manageable then 5 separate channels all with a very low bit-rate. We're already used to WMLW being on 58-2, so we know they can manage an HD channel with 1 subchannel and it still looks watchable.

Mike

tbest1797
03-15-2007, 03:44 PM
Is the PQ really that bad? I like the idea of being able to see all the games, but it's unfortunate that we can't enjoy them in HD. Is this only for the first two rounds of the tournament? I hope we can see the games in HD at least from the Sweet 16 forward.

of the games i've watched had terrible PQ. Most were fine. The only thing that will make this satisfactory is if the Marquette and Wisconsin are in fact shown in HD. It's too bad CBS out of Chicago isn't an option. It looks like they aren't multicasting.

Tom

waterhead
03-15-2007, 04:28 PM
I just checked the schedule at the CBS58 web site. It looks like the Marquette game WILL NOT BE BROADCAST ON THE DIGITAL STREAM AT ALL!!!

This is intolerable. I thought that they had to at least simulcast the analog broadcast in digital form.

Tom Snyder
03-15-2007, 04:28 PM
I could be wrong, but I'm thinking there is simply more revenue for CBS-58 in the carrying every single game multicast scenario than there is in showing fewer games but having all of them in HD.

And if there's more revenue, nobody's going to be replacing the management at CBS58 anytime soon.

Perhaps someone from CBS58 could weigh in on this?

waterhead
03-15-2007, 04:40 PM
Yes, but why are they not showing the Marquette game as one of the multi-cast games? Do I have to dust off and use my analog TV just to watch a local team in the playoffs?

Mags
03-15-2007, 04:49 PM
Tom:

I'm sure that is the case - money rules. It's frustrating - I wish there was a way to make CBS feel our pain rather than just a chat board.

I am still shocked that their "primary game" is not on their digital channels at all. So the only way to see Marquette and Wisconsin will be on analog TV?

Wow. IF that is true (and I still don't believe it will be true tonight), CBS will have set back TV 10 years....

waterhead
03-15-2007, 04:56 PM
I just submitted a complaint to CBS58. Afterwards the screen showed a few adds, including this one: :)

waterhead
03-15-2007, 04:59 PM
At about 5:55 PM 58.1 suddenly came to life, showing the end of the CBS News. Maybe they see the error of their ways.

Skywalker
03-15-2007, 05:00 PM
If you would have seen my posts in the other thread, I said all along that CBS 58 would broadcast Wisconsin and Marquette in HD and then return to multicasting following those games.

They just ran a crawl on ch. 5 to make that official.

TAS
03-15-2007, 05:05 PM
58 might be listening!

6:05 PM

58-1 (46-1DT) is up and showing hdtv feed.
58-2 = WMLW
58-3 = slideshow screen
58-4 = off
58-5 = off

Mags
03-15-2007, 05:07 PM
Too little, too late.

They already missed 2 HD games today. Let's just pray they stay HD for the rest of the evening. Minimize the pain at least.

Mags
03-15-2007, 05:08 PM
I just changed to 58-1 and all I see is a black screen.

Maybe they blacked me out OTA! :rolleyes:

TAS
03-15-2007, 05:10 PM
I only get it when typing "46-1" on remote.

Marquette in HD with multicast during day is fine for me.

chadl11
03-15-2007, 05:23 PM
I just saw a banner run along the bottom of the Ohio State game that said the Marquette game will be in HD (no multicast during the game) and then the Multicast will be back on at the conclusion of the MU game.

Maybe I should have bought the DirecTV package so I could get all games in HD.

murdoc
03-15-2007, 05:24 PM
I just changed to 58-1 and all I see is a black screen.

Maybe they blacked me out OTA! :rolleyes:

Same here. 58-1, 58-2, 58-3, 58-4, and 58-5 all show black screens. I tried tuning to ML58 on D* and it was showing the damn Ohio St. game. It's 6:23 right now, and tuning to D*58 finally has Marquette on, but it looks horrible.

murdoc
03-15-2007, 05:25 PM
Where the hell is the game? There is NOTHING on 58-1! :bang: :bang: :bang:

TAS
03-15-2007, 05:27 PM
looks great from CBS 58


type 46-1

typing 58-1 doesn't do it

NDP1623
03-15-2007, 05:28 PM
Same here, black screen on all channels. Tried to rescan locals and still brought up 58-03, 04, 05. When I put in transponder 46 it gives me 90% signal but cant lock on.

Mags
03-15-2007, 05:30 PM
IT's weird - I can't get the 58 digital channels to come in through the HR10-250 D* box (even though they did all day and ALL the other digital channels are coming through).

BUt I can get it directly from the antenna. I'm thinking that with the switches CBS-58 is doing to multicast and then do HD, it somehow confused the TIVO box???

murdoc
03-15-2007, 05:33 PM
looks great from CBS 58


type 46-1

typing 58-1 doesn't do it

Nothing on 46-1.

Edit, seems that 58-1 is back online.

murdoc
03-15-2007, 05:35 PM
IT's weird - I can't get the 58 digital channels to come in through the HR10-250 D* box (even though they did all day and ALL the other digital channels are coming through).

BUt I can get it directly from the antenna. I'm thinking that with the switches CBS-58 is doing to multicast and then do HD, it somehow confused the TIVO box???

Try it again. 58-1 just came back on my HR10-250.

NDP1623
03-15-2007, 05:38 PM
Awesome, its there now.

murdoc
03-15-2007, 05:42 PM
Awesome, its there now.


OUCH! Maybe it should have stayed black. :eek:

NDP1623
03-15-2007, 05:46 PM
Yeah, actually mine went black again right when they hit the three to go ahead by 12. I had to hard reset my receiver. It works fine now though.

chadl11
03-15-2007, 07:01 PM
It's been flipping back and forth between HD and DS - both OTA and through a D*TV HD receiver.

Uggg!

NDP1623
03-15-2007, 07:15 PM
At one point they had an HD picture and audio from the studio, not the announcers.

Absopo
03-16-2007, 04:25 AM
Its very important to call and complain to them, they need to know how we feel.

MarkK
03-16-2007, 08:00 AM
TWC, cable card, digital access package. I saw the Marquette game on 505 in HD. Later, the Indiana game was on 505 in SD. On channels 581-584, there was nothing but a Channel Not Available message, although the channel label said NCAA. Do I really need to ask TW to unlock these channels? Or am I doing something wrong?

bubbaridesfast
03-16-2007, 09:14 AM
The OTA broadcasts had MArquette in HD and 58-3, 58-4 & 58-5 with nothing until the Marquette game was over , then all four channels had different games in SD.

LoadStar
03-16-2007, 12:06 PM
Yeah, the Marquette game was a total mess... it looked for a while like they kept picking up a satellite feed -- only to discover it was actually another game's feed that was showing the Marquette game during a break in the action. CBS network center would return to the normal game, then CBS58 would have to scramble and find another feed for the game... then the process repeated itself, until eventually they were down to what looked like SD footage, with CBS branding, but produced for CSTV.

It's a good thing the game was fairly one-sided, so by the time they were down to permanently SD footage, I gave up and flipped over to something else.

LoadStar
03-16-2007, 12:09 PM
I guess if I wanted to watch crappy quality basketball, I'd watch it online. They need to stick with presenting the one primary game, in HD, and let everyone who wants to watch the other games watch them online.

hggeorge
03-16-2007, 09:26 PM
With the poor picture quality of 58 with the multi-cast the FCC should suspend the station license. How this crap is serving the public good is beyond me. I finally turned the antenna north and watched it on WFRV Green Bay. No multi-cast in Packer town and excellent picture. It makes one think that the same morons that handle HD programming for TWC must be giving advice to 58 on how to screw the public.

George K9GM
Howards Grove

Mark Strube
03-16-2007, 10:21 PM
I couldn't care less about these games, but that kind of behavior sounds horribly unprofessional. This isn't even technical difficulties... this is not knowing how to handle your damn station. Ridiculous.

waterhead
03-17-2007, 04:53 AM
I recorded the Wisconsin game and watched it last night. What seemed to be happening was that CBS kept switching away from the game. CBS58 would then try to find, and air, a different feed that was showing the Wisconsin game. CBS would then switch that feed to a different game, etc etc.

I think we should be commending CBS58 for at least trying to show us the entire game. It it CBS Sports that deserves our wrath.

jjallou
03-17-2007, 08:18 AM
I recorded the Wisconsin game and watched it last night. What seemed to be happening was that CBS kept switching away from the game. CBS58 would then try to find, and air, a different feed that was showing the Wisconsin game. CBS would then switch that feed to a different game, etc etc.

I think we should be commending CBS58 for at least trying to show us the entire game. It it CBS Sports that deserves our wrath.

Exactly that is what happened. CBS (the network) switched the HD feed to another HD game that was in progress near the end of the Badger game. The local station then switched back to the SD version of the Badger game so we could continue to see it. It also looked like 58 was switching back & forth between the 2 SD versions of both games so we could see the ending of both.
What else you gonna do when the network takes the HD feed away?
Good job!

Mags
03-17-2007, 04:11 PM
This game was in HD on D* for awhile, before they had to switch to another game....

Then I had to switch to 58-1 to see the end of the game with the "amazing picture and sound" provided by our local CBS-58! :(

The game is 10x better in HD - the sound is incredible and of course the picture is perfect.

Just another example of how our local CBS-58 is ripping us off by giving us TERRIBLE SD television.

As I've said before, CBS intended these games to be shown in HD, as did God, because he helped us invent the equipment.

Why our local CBS-58 wants to stick it to us so we can't see the games the way they were designed to be presented is beyond me.

And it sounds like the majority of CBS's around the country ARE showing HD and not this multicasting crap.

Thanks for nothing CBS-58.

Mark Strube
03-17-2007, 07:59 PM
I've merged the three different threads about games on CBS not being in HD.

chadl11
03-17-2007, 09:28 PM
While I would prefer to watch the games in HD, I do like the multicast. For fans of teams who aren't the "primary game" in HD, I'm happy to watch a different game in SD. With that being said, I'm thinking to myself the whole time - I wish this was in HD. At least we'll really only have to deal with this one more day (I think).

I think there will only be one game at a time from the Sweet 16 on and hopefully CBS 58 will broadcast them all in HD.

LoadStar
03-18-2007, 12:15 AM
I think the frustrating part of the multicast, at least for me, is that it doesn't seem to mesh with the way CBS network is delivering the games. For a proper multicast presentation, they should be showing one game, and one game alone, at a time per channel. However, CBS network is switching back and forth between games frequently, obviously serving those in markets only getting one game. So even if I flip over to one of the subchannels intending to watch Podunk U vs. Ipswitch State - that may not be the game being carried over there... at least not all the time.

It's rather like watching with someone with a short attention span and a permanent hold on the remote control. "*flip* That was boring, let's watch this instead.... ok, bored now, let's watch this other one... *flip* oh, sorry, were you watching that? *flip*..."

So not only is it poor video quality, not in HD, it's not even games in their entirety. Altogether, a really lame presentation.

Mags
03-18-2007, 12:42 PM
AND they didn't even bother to switch for the Wisconsin game...

They switch right away for a crappy Marquette team... but for a team that has been in the top 5 all season long, they make us miss 10% of the game to watch the end of a meaningless game to Wisconsin people (Tennessee and Virginia).


Do the people running the show at CBS have any sense?

No HD, No Wisconsin game (in the home market), and No HD of the Wisconsin game (which very well may not be the local affiliate's fault).

BUT THEY CERTAINLY COULD HAVE SWITCHED TO THE SD FEED OF THE WISCONSIN GAME AT THE START OF THE GAME!

You think they'd do that (not switch) for a Packer game that starts at 3:00? Sorry, CBS-58, this Badger team is MUCH better and more important than any stupid Packer game.......

NDP1623
03-18-2007, 01:01 PM
Ok, I gotta give CBS milwaukee credit this year. Twice this year now they have ran bulletins accross the screen explaining the situation with the HD signal. First was the marquette game explaining that they would go away from multi-cast to provide the game in HD. (wasnt the best broadcast but whatever) Then today again at the beginning of the Badger game. They said they could not air it cause CBS headquarters or whatever it is was showing the something else in HD at the time, and that as soon as they provided the signal they would switch to HD. Low and behold about 2 minutes later it switched. Gotta give em credit, they are keeping us informed.

Mags
03-18-2007, 01:13 PM
They should have switched away from the Tenn-Virginia HD before the Wisconsin game started - even if we had to see it in SD.

The local team always should take priority. It always does with the Packers.

And the Badgers are a top 5 team - not some middle of the rung Big East team (although you can't tell by the way they are playing right now).

Showing it in SD would have been fine. But we deserved to see the beginning of the game.

NDP1623
03-18-2007, 01:31 PM
I watched the first part of the game in SD. I just had to watch the end of the Tennessee game. Which actually, ended up being pretty good, and in HD. Plus Bruce Pearl was coaching.

gurekku
03-18-2007, 08:28 PM
I'm not sure if I'm following this thread correctly about the NCAA games not being broadcase in HD on Channel 58...until recently I got fine (1080i) HD broadcasts OTA on channel 58-1, with of course then fairly lousy SD reception on channel 58 per se. But now 58-1 is not there anymore at all for me. I had some warranty work done recently on the TV (Samsung HL-S6187 DLP), so I wonder if it's just me not getting 58-1 anymore, or is this the general problem that the present thread is addressing?

bschmidt25
03-23-2007, 06:18 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but WTF...

They've been showing the same feed on 58-2 so far tonight and trivia on 58-3. I would have loved to have seen the Tennessee - Ohio State game in HD last night, but again more trivia taking up valuable bandwidth. What is the matter with them?!?!? :bang: I hope this is the last year of this multicast crap.