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basshive
08-18-2005, 05:51 PM
I waited all day to come home to an HD football game on Fox and low and behold signal strength zero..

Joseph S
08-18-2005, 05:55 PM
Same thing here, no programming. Not surprising at all.

Joseph S
08-18-2005, 06:15 PM
and to top it off CBS is preempting programming to show weather, going to commercials and then preempting again!!!!!!!!! WTF

tencom
08-18-2005, 06:47 PM
channel 6 a half hour ago cut the hdtv football feed on warner cable ch. 103-3 to devote the the remaining picture area to storm coverage so your not missing anything

Chinatown
08-18-2005, 07:29 PM
on D........Channel 88, the New York Fox east coast feed...........Time to get rid of cable, boys

jfelbab
08-18-2005, 07:36 PM
I not surprised. HD broadcasting in the Milwaukee area is treated as if HD doesn't matter. It's as if the station is being run by a bunch of school kids. It would be nice if a network actually performed a public service and broadcast HD when they are supposed to. Don't they have engineers watching what is happening? Are they really that incompetent? It is getting especially difficult to like FOX these days. :mad:

kevbeck122
08-18-2005, 08:03 PM
Lets see... most of the locals are covering the weather.. time warner won't stop with the walworth/racine county tornado warning and will not give me audio... so I can't watch any TV (I could always make up the lines to the shows :rofl: ). There's OTA, but PBS seems like the only HD thing I can watch now :mad:

Joseph S
08-18-2005, 08:10 PM
CBS cut off the entire HOH competition on Big Brother tonight, then went to commercials. :mad:

audiopile
08-18-2005, 08:11 PM
Us HD-?DTV - OTA fans are realy considered beyond the pale and maybe over the far horizon by most of the people who get their paychecks for providing broadcast services to us. i think the most common quote is : "No One's Watching!". Bluntly - compared to NTSC viewers - they're right. The only reason they have done ANYTHING with broadcast digital TV services is because that nasty ol' interfering damm fehdrahl guvmint forced 'em to. They really aren't much impressed by us - we need to increase in numbers pretty dramatically to get their attention - with the dramatic power increases this summer - this is a more and more practical project for a lot of our fellow citizens. Encourage them! And accept the fact that right now we are a whinning ,incosequential minority - the broadcast industry isn't interested in OTA or us.!

DanDyer
08-18-2005, 11:04 PM
Wow, guys, think about it for a minute. If the stations didn't think people were watching the HD, they wouldn't switch the signal from HD to an upconverted signal with the weather information. It is our responsibility to inform as many people as possible of dangerous events, including weather. Now maybe the warnings don't pertain to people in the opposite direction, but broadcasters only capability is to put the information out there. We're sorry that you don't like having the weather information interrupting your HD, but there are a lot of people that are thankful for it also, including other HDers. I myself was thankful tonight because it was out on my HD channel and the whole thing blew right over my house, (got my vehicle inside just before the hail hit!)
You may say why not do the weather in HD.......hello, that's a lot of equipment not here yet. We do the best we can guys, and it doesn't please everyone, but it does provide vital information to people and a little viewing common sense can go a long way.

Dan Dyer
Chief Engineer WDJT/WMLW/WYTU

Joseph S
08-19-2005, 01:12 AM
The problem was CBS58 interuppted a live show including the most decisive moments of it with weather and not once interrupted the commercials. It was premempt cut to 5 sec before commercials, run commercials, preempt another 10 minutes, run commercials.

The other issue was Fox was entirely off the air at the start of the NFL game and didn't show a second OTA in HD.

basshive
08-19-2005, 08:05 AM
This is a pretty touchy issue. Obviously when something as severe as what was going on last night occurs, the public has to be notified. I may be wrong here but are the scrolling bars, beeping, flashing, and wrap around the screen displays showing current weather information for the entire duration of a show not enough? Does the network need to cutaway every 5-10 mins to show us the same cell phone images? There needs to be a better balance here. One could begin thinking that events like this are just media blitzes for our weather men. Non stop face time.

Again, I do not think anyone here is saying the public should not be informed but come on now. If you are going to cut away THAT often then stop ruining the little bits of the show we are able to enjoy. If you are going to cut away THAT often make the cut aways meaningful and quick.

And yes, thank you Fox for being offair at the start of the game and then leaving it in SD for its entirety.

AndrewP
08-19-2005, 08:41 AM
Actually, in my 4 year HD history I will give them a break for the first time for that weather break yesterday.
It was really worth it. Storm made a right turn to the Racine county just before hitting us. We were ready to go downstairs.

But when it was over they should stop all these repeats of cell phone pictures. It was enough already. Jay Leno was delayed. Why? They could just show it in HD on schedule.

TAS
08-19-2005, 09:46 AM
I saw most of the FOX game in HD for WLUK Gbay, and they also had tornados in Appleton area, but only interrupted once or twice and during commercials. I had good signal until the second half when the storm moved east of Highway 41.

Shrek
08-19-2005, 10:16 AM
I agree as soon as the info scrolled across the screen on the bottom the weatherman was stumbleing around for his words and repeating atr least 3 times or more. I know it can be a lifesaverbut was there not a time when they had a small box with the regular content on the screen? I do feel sorry for the ppl in the path of the destuction though.

Mark Strube
08-19-2005, 01:29 PM
The part that annoyed me was the warning display insisting to pop up every (what seemed like) 10 minutes or so... screwing up my digital sound, not allowing me to view the guide or show list... real annoying. Even when there was NO WARNING to display, something kept exiting me out of the guide & show list, I couldn't view it for more than 5 seconds even when NO WARNING was happening!! Eventually I just gave up and went outside to watch the lightning show.

murdoc
08-19-2005, 02:55 PM
I noticed Fox6 was off the air for a while again last night, I just turned on D* 88 and watched the game on the NYC affiliate. I would think that it's possible that when a station is actually broadcasting HD content, that they can insert the crawler into the HD feed, thus not having to switch to SD. I don't know if this can be done, but if it can, I would suggest this.

I havn't watched BB6 yet, but why would CBS interupt a LIVE program and not give us the numerous unnecessary warnings during commecial break. Viewers have obviously tuned to your channel to watch YOUR program, so let them watch the program and give us updates instead of commecials. :bang: It looks like I will have to check the BB6 website to see what happened last night.

GBK
08-19-2005, 04:34 PM
it cost money they are not willing to spend on the 2000 people with HDTV's.. although they will most likely protest against that statement. there isn't enough of us for them to care.

On the other hand the weather is a fact of life and people are affected someplace in the viewing area.. it would be nice to use simulcasting to direct people with interest to a secondary channel for all their up to date weather while minimizing the annoyance to people that are totally unaffected.